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Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - Akamataa - 24-03-2018 Hi everyone, it is time for first real dyno Guide. I will try to explain all dyno aspects as detailed as i can. But at first i have to tell, that this will be "Work in Progress" guide, cuz i need some time for proper translation. Additionaly if u want i will write here, my setups and Dyno tunes [with example race video if u guy's will want]. Of course, everything here will be based on my "feelings", cuz i don't have access to server scripts and i don't know what exactly dyno settings change, thus, misunderstandings may occur. But before u get into Dyno, u need to upgrade your car, so i will show, how to make "good" setup for url, and similar score limited races. [Ofc some players have better methods, but this is how I make my setups :3]
Dyno Guide
Example Dyno
Shortcuts in setup:
E = Engine, D = Drivetrain, T = Tires, S = Suspension, B = Brakes, ECU = ECU XD, WR = Weight Reduction, Tss = Turbo, N = NOS; 1 = street upgrade, 2 = race upgrade, 3 = pro upgrade. Washington "all race" setup [make useless car little better]:
RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - Mushor - 24-03-2018 pierdolenie o szopenie kurwa mać, better to do your own dyno than listen to you RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - whiteseed - 25-03-2018 Better read Bible of Satan than this guide RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - Akamataa - 25-03-2018 I'm doing this just for fun, if u are not interested, just don't read this. @update RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - Madman - 25-03-2018 From my experience in making my setups I can tell that some of the tips are useless, for ex. to give -10 mass on every rwd car. Really? You want to drive a brick? Same goes for +10 for fwd - you want to make 180 degree turn every time you hit A or D? Better to give fwd cars some mass to rear, to increase their stability, and some mass to front in rwd cars to make them turn better (but its not neccesary) And many other tips have no sense like this, sorry, but I wouldn't make setup using your tutorial RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - RaiYou - 25-03-2018 Even tho you don't need dyno to win, and is annoyingly unbeatable, this guide is far better and detailed than mine, even though your writing full of abbreviations can get kinda confusing for some people, but still decent anyways, some information is kinda wrong like, your center of mass explanation is kinda... "??", also always +10 downforce is not very good, some cars with bad suspension behavior like kuruma and monroe with downforce 10, thends to spin when goes over a curb, also vintage cars don't like downforce either, and always -10 on RWD cars is not true, not every car gets grippy with that setup, neither does all FWD to +10, vincent for example is annoying to drive with that set, but anyways sticking it. RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - Akamataa - 25-03-2018 About mass balance. -10 in RWD make it ALWAYS more stable and give more grip, but it can make your car spin on curbs so u need good suspension setup. in RWD cars puting center of mass to front can increase cornering speed but just little and u lose grip on rear wheels, is better to put on rear and "reduce" tire pressure for better cornering speed. All this dyno setting must work together, u can just use half of this and complain, just becouse u put your weight balance to +10 in fwd in -10 tires and no changes in suspenssion bias. put +10 in center of mass, +5 in suspenssion bias, and "higher" tires pressure to controll vincent or other shitti fwd car. at first u guys call me a cheater, and after i show u how to be as fast as I, u think it's wrong guide. Maybe it's NOT the best one, but it allows me to make Top of all times, wins lot of url, and get maximum perfomace from useless cars. About RaiYou giude, u use real life experiance in it, not bad, but gta sa physics can't be described be real life experiance. Everytime u change supension / areodynamics setting u should check again your tires setting. Even if u change your SETUP a litle u should recheck your tires settings RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - RaiYou - 26-03-2018 (25-03-2018, 22:52)Akamataa Wrote: About mass balance. -10 in RWD make it ALWAYS more stable and give more grip, but it can make your car spin on curbs so u need good suspension setup. in RWD cars puting center of mass to front can increase cornering speed but just little and u lose grip on rear wheels, is better to put on rear and "reduce" tire pressure for better cornering speed. All this dyno setting must work together, u can just use half of this and complain, just becouse u put your weight balance to +10 in fwd in -10 tires and no changes in suspenssion bias. put +10 in center of mass, +5 in suspenssion bias, and "higher" tires pressure to controll vincent or other shitti fwd car. Sure, but still, putting center of mass to -10 in a-type for example or leaving it at 0, don't change a damn, that's why I said it's not true for every rwd. You're not cheater, it's just that you use a controller, depending on the joystick, if it's a X360 controller or higher, you have more stability while turning + you can controll your throttle while turning, just this makes you much faster around the corners, and your guide isn't wrong, just a bit confusing but it's understandable. My guide is old asf, I did it when dyno came out, and never bothered to update it, MisterJonhoson also made a guide, but as you said he also did real life info, that do not apply on SA. Not every car needs that much detail, why lose time trying to make a bottom tier car good, when you can make the best car even better, plus it's easier that way. RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - Akamataa - 26-03-2018 In normal races maybe it will not be visible in all cars, but try take -10 car for bayview url track... u will se some serious cornering speed boost on NOT flat corners [ofc as far as u have grip]. Yep i have chinnese xbox controller for ~20euro XD, but u can also make powerfull dyno for keyboard this way. Maybe not all cars need so detailed dyno, but if everyone will drive same car it will be boring, beating fast cars by using slow / useless one is realy funny and worthy that time u spend in dyno. Generaly for one car i spend ~1-10 min, it's not that much. Ah and one think, puting -10 in RWD car also increase its start ability, acceleration, stability, and sliding is easier to controll Similar with FWD, +10 = better start, better acceleration, better cornering speed, car is more unstable but u can correct it with suspension bias and tires pressure. In AWD puting mass to rear will make it worse [id know why, worse time = worse car ] RE: Akamataa Dyno Guide and my Dyno Setups?? - bamers - 28-03-2018 Lot of effort put into this thread Thanks a lot Aka I should learn from this Better read this guide than exploit bugs |